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Believing in the Shining City on a Hill PDF Print E-mail
by Tara Ross    Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 06:10 PM

In the week following Rick Warren’s interview with the presidential candidates at Saddleback Church, much has been made of the candidates’ respective views on abortion. Others have talked, at length, about how Barack Obama’s professorial, nuanced style plays against John McCain’s straightforward, blunt approach.

But few commentators have noted another contrast: A difference in where each candidate believes that evil resides. One finds it in Americans. The other in non-Americans.

Warren asked each candidate, "Does evil exist? And if it does, do we ignore it? Do we negotiate with it? Do we contain it? Do we defeat it?" Obama briefly acknowledged "evil in Darfur," but then expanded on evil in America, noting that "[w]e see evil, sadly, on the streets of our cities. We see evil in parents who viciously abuse their children. I think it has to be confronted." Of the three evils that leapt to mind for Obama, two are found among Americans. Shockingly, the evil perpetuated by anti-American terrorists was nowhere on his radar screen. Well, except for a concluding reference to the fact that "a lot of evil’s been perpetrated based on the claim that we were trying to confront evil." Again, Obama thinks of American "evil" (presumably the Iraq war) first, and non-American evil (terrorism) as only secondary.

McCain, by contrast, thought exclusively of evil non-Americans. He immediately responded, "[M]y friends, if I have to follow him to the gates of hell, I will get bin Laden and bring him to justice. . . . [W]e are facing the transcendent challenge of the 21st century—radical Islamic extremism." Later in his answer, McCain acknowledged evil in America, but it wasn’t because he suddenly thought it important to discuss those Americans who face various criminal charges. Instead, he spoke of the evil perpetuated by those non-Americans who live in America but work for al Qaeda.

The two answers present a sharp contrast. They suggest that, of the two candidates, McCain is quickest to believe the best of Americans. Such a characteristic should be deemed essential for a President of the United States.

Indeed, Obama has often had to fight the perception that he does not believe the best of Americans.

His recent speech in Berlin was hailed by many, but it was not as pro-American as it could (and should) have been. He repeatedly emphasized global goals and deemphasized American contributions and successes. He decided that a foreign venue was a good place in which to speak of an America that "has not perfected itself."

On other fronts, Obama attended the Reverend Jeremiah Wright’s church for 20 years. Wright, of course, is known for his many anti-American statements. In an April 2003 sermon, he repeatedly noted that his congregants should sing "God damn America" instead of "God Bless America." On other occasions, he accused the American government of "inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color." Obama, of course, claims that he was unaware of much of this anti-Americanism by Wright. But it’s hard to believe that a person could attend a church for so long without realizing such tendencies of a preacher.

Moreover, Obama’s associations with other anti-American individuals has been questioned. He had a close relationship with Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the Communist Party USA, during his years in Hawaii. He tries to downplay his relationships with two terrorists, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, despite launching his political career with an event at their home. Perhaps Obama has reasonable explanations for these questionable relationships. But after a while, one starts to wonder if all the smoke indicates the existence of a fire underneath.

Then there is Michelle Obama’s infamous statement that "for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country." Mrs. Obama is 44-years old. Now, perhaps her husband does not agree with her that America has more to be ashamed of than to be proud of. But that would be a rather significant difference to have with one’s life partner.

Does Obama love America? Presumably. But he sometimes seems to see an America that is different than the country that most of us know and love. Rather than a "Shining City on a Hill," he sees an imperfect America that must apologize for its transgressions.

What a terrible characteristic for an American president.

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written by michael a. , August 23, 2008

We invaded a sovereign nation that did not attack based on lies and the expressed desire of some within our government to do so. We have made no apologies for that. In fact we barrel forward admitting nothing, including the truth that we did this. I would think that particularly in a church, Christ's teachings of honesty, acknowledging one's sins and asking for forgiveness to be paramount. Warren's church is no exception.

One learns in a therapeutic environment, that you can do nothing about another's behavior, only one's own. In that context, it is more advantageous to examine one's own actions rather than point a finger at the rest of the world, especially when your own behavior is wrong, that's why China and Russia told us to mind our own business. Our grandparents moral authority they acquired in WWII is gone, spent in Iraq.

When a country like Afganastan allows sanctuary to terrorists that perpetuated 9/11, then a war is called for and not to be apologized for. Iraq is another matter as was Vietnam. Adages regarding this are many. My favorite is that those that forget history are doomed to repeat it.

You may get on McCain's Express continuation of Bush's foreign policy but it hasn't worked so well in terms or our allies or our treasure.... or capturing Bin Laden. If all it took were a Republican President to do that, he'd be caught by now.



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written by freedom , August 23, 2008

Tara, I certainly agree with your assessment of Obama. At the same time, John Winthorp specifically warned of this outcome, who Reagan was reflecting upon with his reference to a Shining City on a Hill.

"...for wee must Consider that wee shall be as a Citty upon a Hill, the eies of all people are uppon us; soe that if wee shall deale falsely with our god in this worke wee have undertaken and soe cause him to withdrawe his present help from us, wee shall be made a story and a byword through the world, wee shall open the mouthes of enemies to speake evill of the wayes of god and all professours for Gods sake; wee shall shame the faces of many of gods worthy servants, and cause theire prayers to be turned into Cursses upon us till wee be consumed out of the good land whether wee are going..."

We are no longer "a beacon, still a magnet for all who must have freedom, for all the pilgrims from all the lost places who are hurtling through the darkness, toward home" that Reagan spoke of twenty years ago." We have lit our lamp and put it under a bushel.



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written by Austin , August 23, 2008

It is most odd that the comment from Michelle Obama gets all the coverage in the "liberal" media while McCain saying the same thing goes unmentioned. To wit:

"I really didn't love America until I was deprived of her company." John McCain, March 20 2008.

http://www.jedreport.com/2008/06/damaging-mccain.html



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written by Ken Dickson This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , August 24, 2008

the shining city on the hill certainly is not in the view of the communist party except to destroy it!!

How can America be faced with this type of guy running for president & you have even "bloggers" attacking what is good in America?



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written by dt , August 24, 2008

michael, why do you conclude the worst possible interpretation of events? The events are there; we interpret them in our own way. There is much we do not know. Why do you support violent, brutal dictatorships? Why are you and so many willing to give Russia and China a pass, as though they had any right whatsoever to moral superiority? Why would you and yours so willing to excuse the financing of terror bombers in Israel, rape rooms, genocide of Iraqi citizens, and feeding people into chippers, not to mention rape rooms? If you condemn the war, you say it wasn't worth it to get rid of these things. That is your decision and your right, just don't use it to establish some kind of moral superiority over those who disagree with you, invoking Christ to back you up. I do suspect if Vietnam and Iraq had never happened, you would be decrying the war in Afghanistan. Before you respond, think about why I might say that.

Austin, do you really think this is the same thing? I don't, and here's why. McCain is saying we often don't appreciate what we have until it's taken away from us. Michelle is saying she was never proud of America until Barack ran. You really can't see the difference? Or you don't want to?



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written by michael a. , August 24, 2008

DT, I have never said, I will never say that retaliating against Afghanastan was wrong. We should've followed Bin Laden into Pakistan and gotten him.... period. We went to Iraq instead.

I do not support dictators. Why do you want to pick and choose which ones are worth all our cash and young soldiers lives? Iran? North Korea? Darfur? Miramar? Chavez? Castro? Mugawbe? The world is full of dictators. Where is your outrage and need to go after them. My point is we are not the planet's police. We have neither the money nor the manpower to sustain that. We should unleash our fury on those that attack us.

I don't support China or Russia's behavior although Georgia was warned to not do what it did. What I said was we no longer have the moral authority you think we do to tell other large countries how to handle affairs in their own back yard. How would you like it if Russia got involved with Mexico? You'd have the loudest fit of all.

Yes there is much we don't know and most of it is why these criminals got us in a pre-emptive war.

I'll invoke my belief in Christ if I like. Republicans don't own him.



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written by RelicMM , August 25, 2008

You are so right, Tara, but what impact do you think your words will have on te mesmerized followers of Obama? He shoots himself in the foot on a routine daily basis, but who among them or the liberal media dares notice? A Marxist for president was unheard of when Americans still dared to call treason by its proper name. The Constitution will begin disentegration on that day if he is elected. For the first time in eight decades, I have serious doubts about the mentality and loyalty of our citizens. John Dewey will have succeeded beyond his wildest traitorous dreams if that happens.


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written by Matt Pate , August 25, 2008

Michael A. has apparently not been paying terribly close attention. A.) This is not November of 2004. The war in Iraq is by and large over, and the world, and by extension the U.S., is a much better place as a result. Comparisons to Vietnam are inapposite. B.) Tara isn't talking about the merits of the war in Iraq, but the extent to which a U.S. president should be a vigorous advocate of the U.S.. Seems like a question with a pretty straightforward answer, unless one happens to think that patriotism is somehow gauche; which is why Tara is so insightful to put the issue in the context of Rick Warren's question as to the existence of evil. Apparently, it is only simple minded war mongering Republicans who see the world in stark terms of good guys (us) and bad guys (terrorists). But moral relativism aside, I wouldn't want someone managing an Arby's if they didn't like roast beef, let alone let someone run the country when they're loyalties are in serious doubt.


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written by michael a. , August 27, 2008

Yes Matt, the war is by and large over - because the election looms, Bush picked an exit date, that and the Iraqis want him out - and by and large, the world and by extension the US is broke.

Why would a person of the opposite party be a vigorous advocate of the failed policies of the party in power?

And I wouldn't want somebody managing an Arby's that doesn't know how to cook.



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written by Peggy Venable , September 05, 2008

Great perspective, Tara - thanks!



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