| The Dismal State Of Black Dallas |
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| by Rufus Shaw | Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 11:25 AM |
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I have been conducting an informal, unscientific survey for the last few months with the goal of determining how Black Dallas is perceived by other successful Black folks in My survey uncovered that the Black Dallas business community is considered the most financially depressed Black business community of any major urban center in Stories abound regarding some of In my view, the Dallas Citizens Council (DCC) and the Black electorate have engaged in an abusive, dysfunctional, political relationship for decades that has left the southern sector underdeveloped while the Black vote has contributed to the success of DCC- sponsored political initiatives. Throughout the campaign for the Trinity River toll road, I continuously pointed out that DCC types were behind the pro toll road forces and these were the same people who promise Black voters economic development for our vote but they never make good on their promises to develop southern Commissioner John Wiley Price was the undisputed leader of the African-American electorate for over 2 decades. During his watch, he allowed the southern sector to be neglected by the DCC types who were strongly backing his leadership of the Black electorate. The same goes for We are the nation’s laughing stock as a Black business community because our Black political leadership has refused to demand accountability from the city’s most powerful white business organization. This organization happens to be the Black political community’s chief sources of campaign funds and “get out the vote” consulting dollars but little else. If we are ever going to be on the road to resolving this issue, we must either have Black leaders who can demand and get accountability from the DCC in the form of real economic development for Black Dallas or we need to find some new white folks to partner with. Next up, the DCC will be pushing the school bond election and they will be depending once again on the Black electorate to pass the bond. But this time Black political leaders will be under the media microscope. This time the mantra “no development; no vote” had better be on the lips of the Black political leaders or we will be looking, again, for new Black political leadership. At least that is how I see it from South of the Trinity.
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written by Roger Herrera , December 10, 2007 Speaking of black Dallas, I was channel surfing and caught about two minutes of a preacher named Frederick Haynes yesterday. He is such a clown! He said that "ethnic cleansing" was happening at DISD! He claims blacks are being fired and replaced by non-blacks. I know that Haynes played a role in electing our mayor. I was watching Haynes with two white liberals and thet were just as disgusted at Haynes' garbage "preaching."
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written by Tom Pauken , December 10, 2007 Very interesting analysis of Dallas' leadership. When I was growing up in Dallas, the leadership of the city had an attitude which I would characterize as a rising tide lifts all boats. Sure, the leaders did well for themselves; but the entire city benefitted. I am not sure that is the case anymore. There seems to be more of an attitude of getting all the advantages one can get for those in power without considering the community at large. I too saw the example of the strange coalition of some of the downtown crowd and John Wiley Price being aligned together for the mutual benefit of each. It worked to the economic benefit of a few, but it did a lot of damage to the city at large. It is encouraging to see these forces lose some of the control they have enjoyed for some time now. I preferred the leadership of the John Stemmons, R.L Thornton, Robert Folsom, Starke Taylor groups to the current leadership even though the Sunday Dallas Morning News told us how wonderful a job is being done by our present, civic leadership team.
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written by Gehrig Saldaña , December 10, 2007 I wish Reverend Haynes would be disgusted about the millions of DISD taxpayer dollars stolen by hundreds of DISD employees who used their DISD issued credit cards. Think Reverend Haynes would advocate for Dr. Hinojosa and the entire DISD school board to initiate an immediate process to recoup as much of those stolen millions of DISD taxpayer funds? And if not, why?
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written by Bob , December 10, 2007 One of the biggest apparent problems is that the city's black leadership appears to essential be up "for rent" to whoever wishes to fork over the largest amount of consulting money. If one is to review a history of positions staked out by the black leadership, there seems to be little correlation between the issues in which they become involved/positions they advocate and the issues/positions which would be of meaningful relevance to the average black resident. In contrast, look at political spend on "consultants" and that is where you will find the black leadership. The city appears to operate on some sort of backwards "vote purchasing" system, under which powerful white interests pay black political consultants to deliver votes... the issues at hand are entirely irrelevant as long as money changes hands.
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written by joseph raines , December 11, 2007 Bob, there is nothing I can add -- you definitely have your finger on the sad state of affairs in this city. One only needs to look at the Vote No Pave the Trinity fiasco to see how the "new black leadership" is for sale to the highest bidder. The Willis Johnsons, Frederick Haynes, and Dwayne Caraways of the world are not really helping our community.
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written by Michael Davis , December 11, 2007 To the Bob's and "joseph raines" of the world, I have an idea.... call the City Secretary's offices, sign up for your three minutes, and come tell the City Council about it in person. Stop waiting for Rufus' column to come out every week to make comments and come on down and do something about it. Is "joseph raines" a made up name? There's no one by that name on the voter rolls in Dallas County. I have more respect for the people that people view oddly because they come down to City Hall and speak their minds. Dwaine has been in office less than 6 months. Where have YOU been. In that short six months: *The amount of drug houses and abandoned properties being torn down in District Four has gone from zero to ten per month and climbing. *Multiple motels with a set date to be shut down and more coming. *Finding money in the City budget for more than 50 truck boots to be purchased to boot and tow illegally parked 18-wheelers out of our City. *Meeting with the owners of Big T to make them beef up security after a fatal shooting. *Talks are under way to open a $20 million dollar medical facility in the SE part of District 4 with NO TAX ABATEMENTS. It will create 250-300 NEW JOBS. That's what we were doing last night. And you? *Do you get threats from drug dealers because you and the Mayor have put publicly them on notice that they must go? You talk about Willis, but last week Willis was one of the people that gave money to the Pleasant Grove and Oak Cliff teams so they wouldn't have to leave their school trip because they ran out of money. Do you put your money where your mouth is? Some of you love to stay in the shadows and throw rocks. But the truth is, you don't have the guts to do anything. Come on down to City Hall and put skin in the game. The City Secretary would be glad to put your name on the list. Until then, you'll just be another coward that doesn't give a darn about the City but wants to run your mouth in the background.
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written by manny , December 11, 2007 The trinity vote would have been a great way to make a stand and let "north dallas" know that we in the south would not be push overs anymore but alas we were for rent.
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written by joseph raines , December 11, 2007 Michael, I applaud your investigating whether or not I am on the voter registration rolls -- I am indeed a registered voter in Dallas County and have actually been on a city commission, a city task force, and involved in community groups, but not under my nom de plume. Not that I owe you or anyone an explanation, but I have indeed been engaged in trying to make Dallas a better place for several years. You can call me and others who disagree with you cowards or whatever else you may choose, but the cold facts are that many of the so-called leaders in Dallas do things for their own benefit. This is not restricted to just blacks -- there are hispanics and whites who do the same thing.
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written by Michael Davis , December 11, 2007 Look - you may not like certain people or disagree with people and that's one thing. But you listed specific people. And when you say that "the Willis Johnsons, Frederick Haynes, and Dwayne Caraways of the world are not really helping our community," it's not true.
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written by J. Smithe , December 11, 2007 Rufus, I think there is more to this than just blacks not be able to grow black business. Look at it from a more basic level. I have quite a few young, black, female friends who are also professionals, and none of them will date a black man from Dallas. This seems to be a big point with them. Each of them, and there are about seven friends I count as close, who are all dating either men of another race or African American men from either Atlanta, Chicago, Boston, New York, etc... These girls are actually going to these places specifically to go out and date, but will come back here and date until they get married, then will move to those cities. There is something within the black community here, that, not being black I can not explain. Why is it that Dallas has such a horrible reputation when it comes to the black comuunity, and what is sad is that it seems that the black community is the major source of the negative sterotypes and negative comments about their own.
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written by Michael Davis , December 11, 2007 Rufus, Do you feel that, with the people in place like Mayor Leppert, Dwaine, and Tennell this issue will move forward? I think so - could you imagine the last Mayor making such a call for such investment? Me neither. The fact that the Mayor IS putting the subject out there and that people are talking about it can only bode well for the future.
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written by Lorlee Bartos , December 11, 2007 And you are just now noticing? Good grief. I started running campaigns in 1979 and got labeled a racist because I refused to pay "Walking Around" money. Silly me, in Minnesota you connect actual work with pay. A few folks get the money and the community gets screwed, again and again and again and again. It seems to be a really long learning curve. Screw me once, shame on you. Screw me twice, shame on me.... Don't know what the saying is for screw me a hundred times.
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written by joseph raines , December 11, 2007 Something that needs to be mentioned here is that blacks should not wait for handouts from the DCC ("master") for development in our community. We need to put together good business plans, join together as partners, and get lenders / investors from wherever to see the "green" in providing capital. Leppert is not the great white savior of our community -- we need to be the savior of our community.
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written by joseph raines , December 11, 2007 Michael -- are the Willis Johnsons, Dwain Caraways, and Frederick Haynes of Dallas speaking out against the rampant homophobia in the black community? If they (and people like T.D. Jakes, Tony Evans) are enlightening our brothers and sisters, then I owe them and you an apology.
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written by joseph raines , December 11, 2007 Michael -- are the Willis Johnsons, Dwain Caraways, and Frederick Haynes of Dallas speaking out against the rampant homophobia in the black community? If they (and people like T.D. Jakes, Tony Evans) are enlightening our brothers and sisters, then I owe them and you an apology.
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written by Jonathan Green , December 11, 2007 There is only one law I'm familiar with in business its the "The Law of Productivity". According to the U.S. Census Bureau, African-Americans are more likely to start a business than any other ethnic group. However, they are also more likely to fail in business (within 5 years) than any other ethnic group. I often wondered why this fact was so revelent to African American business owners, more focus come into view reading the column of Mr. Shaw. Banks in this city have a unwritten policy to make it a differcult as possible to lessen the chances of African Americans becoming economically productive in the business world no matter how hard they strive or how great a business plan they come to the table with.
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written by Jonathan Green , December 11, 2007 Michael good points brought out in responses to Mr. Raines, matter of speaking I agree he is prehaps not an original from D Town.
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written by Richie Sheridan , December 12, 2007 Price, Kirk, and others are the house/ DCC negroes who have betrayed the black community...are they not? It's ok with many black leaders to use this expression because it's true, and doesn't use the N word. I've checked this out with a few to be sure. Mark Twain wasn't politically correct either. We would have fantastic economic development, and a major decrease in crime for the black community by doing four things: 1. Take care of our homeless in a humane way instead of continuing the disgraceful policy of criminalizing their behaviour. Down Dallas is today's front of the bus to the homeless, The composite of the criminalization laws are like a can of raid, and the homeless are our "roaches"...sorry. 2. Get jobs, jobs, jobs for the ex-felons, the poor and homeless blacks. The more jobs the less crime, and the higher the tax base, and the better morale. 3. Accelerate code enforcement to clean up the blighted areas...USING THE HOMELESS, AND UNEMPLOYED EX-FELONS AND POOR AS THE LABOR FORCE. 4. Develop a truly World Class Trinity River Park instead of the DCC picture postcard which will cause a monolithic increase in economic development by increasing the elite's property values. A truly World Class Trinity River Park would do two important things. First. provide important recreation to the working class of Dallas who can't afford to go out of town on vacations. This would be a major motivator to the black community, and the hispanic community. New York's Fiorello LaGuardia got it, why can't Dallas' Mayor get it! NEW yORK CAN HAVE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE OF COLOR IN ITS PARKS WORLD CLASS PARKS, WHY CAN'T DALLAS? Second, be a major international attraction which would significantly increase Dallas tax base. Who's going to come to Dallas in the summer to walk out on some promenades, sweatin' their a** off to look at some wetlands, some lakes, and some fancy bridges? How about building a combined Taste of Texas, and a major recreational facilities park!
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written by joseph raines , December 12, 2007 What? No responses from Michael Green as to what the black leadership is doing to counter the homophobia in the community? I will give Mr. Davis (and Mr. Green) the benefit of the doubt in failing to address this aspect of the "Dismal State of Black Dallas". And for the record, I have lived in Dallas for 20 years -- is that long enough to have an opinion on the state of affairs?
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written by Ace Boone , December 12, 2007 Who in the hell is this blissful idiot named Joseph Rains?That guy is a joke.
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written by joseph raines , December 12, 2007 Ace, if calling me a blissful idiot makes you happy, then go ahead. I know I am right and I would bet that many of the citizens in Dallas agree with me as well. Even though I am a black male in Oak Cliff, I don't have to blindly walk lockstep and agree with what the so-called black leadership. I am an independent thinker, beholden to no one.
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written by P.A. Huffhines , December 12, 2007 The fault of the sad state of affairs of the "southern sector" lies at the feet of the residents of that area. I have seen many businesses try to make a go economically there only to have to close up due to the crime and general low class attitude that prevails there. There are areas all over where you can see the shuttered stores that gave up. And as far as leadership, that is a real joke. The Al Lipscomps, Elsie Faye Higgins, Diane Ragsdales, and others of that ilk failed their people because they were more interested in keeping alive the "poor black" mentality. And racist Dallas News columnists like Rufus Shaw and James Ragland who refuse to demand that Blacks take responsibility but always find a way to blame whitey. They all need to listen to the wisdom of Bill Cosby.
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written by L. King , December 12, 2007 As a professional salesman, I'm pretty good at what I do. Tell me, how do you sell the Black community on the notion of voting "FOR" funding with their tax dollars, the development of downtown, uptown, victory park, etc. to help build apartments and condos that 99.9% of Blacks will never live in due to the cost and for stores they can't afford to shop in. How do you persuade them to vote for downtown projects/Toll road at the expense of projects south of the Trinity. I think the answer lies in that most Black people are very trusting of Black leaders. Many make the mistake of thinking that Black leaders have their best interest at heart. Focusing on the messenger compared to the message can have dire consequences. Somebody needs to "check the checker" and Rufus you're right on the failure of Dallas' Black leadership to demand our Fair Share. The Black citizenry needs a course in Economics 101. Many do not understand money, its flow and how to insure it stays in the community for a second.
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written by RB , December 13, 2007 Yes, Rufus and when the black community in Dallas had the opportunity to vote for a project that would have brought billions of dollars of economic developement to the entire city, made us a real city where all the the ships rise, or a wall that would isolate south Dallas, they elected to vote for isolation. It is beyond stupidity to me.
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written by L. King , December 13, 2007 Rufus, is it fair, reasonable or even desirable for the DCC and others to develop south Dallas and the Black business community. I say no. If the DCC and others converge on southern Dallas then Black businesses and consumers will be disenfranchised even further because they won't own any of these "new businesses" unless they (Blacks) create them. Why would you invite outsiders to your community to develop it for you? Who would do that for you and hand you the keys? Be careful what you ask for. Do you really want southern Dallas development at any cost, or do you want Black business development in southern Dallas? Developing southern dallas without strong minority participation will not improve the plight of minorities. Blacks would do well to learn from the Koreans, Chinese, Indians and other minorites who understand economics.
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written by jurline gates hollins , December 13, 2007 12-13-07 to joseph raines and bob you both have expressed the sentiments of many in my community. keep kicking em where it hurts. to the rented escorts you are about to get your ghetto pass revoked. jurline gates hollins
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written by Taylor Brannon , December 14, 2007 The State of Black Dallas is in my opinion only a generation away from improvement. There is a younger generation of voters and leaders that believe we don't need the help of outsider's to improve out community. We must fist start change in our own community, than maybe we will have others knocking on our door to get involved in our economic and development evolution. Lets be real if only money is the deciding factor (and it is) and if African-Americans circulate more money than we generate, does that not say that the problem lies within us in some way? There are a lot of strong opinions on this site, many give way to great debate within our community and they also forge even greater balanced to long term ideals for progress. However unless we as African-Americans cease being consumers instead of investors, complainers instead of voters we will always be in a state of Dallas Black confusion an divide. Thanks to my mother Jurline Gates Hollins for giving one black man the head start on life to be the man I am today.
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written by L. King , December 14, 2007 You're very correct Taylor. Was it Harriet Tubman the great conductor to the Underground Railroad who said "I have freed thousands of slaves and I could have freed thousands more if they knew they were slaves". Many southern Dallas Blacks are comfortable in the current state of affairs and they have and will continue to resist positive change. If you really want to find the problem it only takes a quick walk to the nearest mirror.
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written by Betty Culbreath , December 16, 2007 I am a life time resident of Dallas, grew up in North Dallas where most Black people lived other then a few small communities in North Oak Cliff, South Dallas ( Roosevelt Heights, Bonton)and a few others. I do not know who you spoke with about the state of Dallas but I have traveled this Country and no where have I heard this. In fact Essence magazine named Dallas as a" Best Opportunity's City" for Blacks .. Any business man that has to leave Dallas to get a loan has some other problems with his business plan all the Big Banks now are national and not Dallas owned but he wants to blame Dallas White folks. South Dallas was developed when I moved South in 1985 this Community had every thing Redbird Mall and many other retail outlets now it has what the majority of it residents supports, fast food, pawn shops, auto parts, grocery store , and etc. When drugs took over and crime increased Black professional did the same as their White counterparts, moved to the Suburbs. They did not leave Southern Dallas they left Dallas. The highest disposal income went with them so retail follow them. It is about economics not race. The DCC has always supported Black businesses . How many got help from any Black organization (BDCC)? Crow built Redbird Industrial Park where are the people? Back in the day before integration Blacks had their own everything but we were so eager to merge with Whites that we caused our own institutions to close. Integration was about EQUAL OPPERTUNITY not hate your own. Why have no Black Officials other then Al Lipscomb, Dwain Caraway spoke about the drugs and what they have done to this Southern Section and Caraway just got there, Why have they not spoke on Black on Black crime Vonciel Hill lives in the same area I do we have had 6 murders in 100 block radius in the past 8 months where is her voice? Why did John Price hold up the Inter Modal project that would create 4600 jobs in Southern Dallas, not a word from the Black Leadership, or the voters. Why should the DCC step over here and do what Black people refuse to do for ourselves? Black Dallas is in a depressed state but it has nothing to do with DCC it has to do with 30 years of our Leadership without a vision or plan and not growing any new business or trying to bring new business. Senator West is trying at the State level but people like Yvonne Davis cut off opportunity from Dallas by killing the UNT Law school bill where so many inter city students could have gotten a degree. Come November the Black voters will send her right back to Austin like it never happen so many lost opportunities! The US vs. THEM speeches to keep people emotional and down while they fill their pockets . The blame the White man/DCC is old news the Civil rights movement is over Black people got every tool needed to be independent and rich if we failed to use them shame on us we have no one to blame but ourselves. Remember SUNBELT BANK ? Congresswoman Johnson who is a good Official fights for Federal money for this region every year and Millions go back to Washington because Black people fail to look at the opportunities and request the money, What more can she do? I am sick of Black activist who missed the Civil Rights movement using it to keep Black people down. Thousands of Black business people in Dallas are doing just fine they go about their business and do not get involved with Politics because they know it will net them noting but a request for money. I read an interview with Mayor Leppert in the DCC annual report I guess you do not get that publication but there was not one word in that about the Southern Sector. Rufus if you think Southern Dallas is being looked over and so depressed how could you continue to SUPPORT STRONG MANAGER form of GOVERNMENT the manager is controlled by DCC that is why they did not want strong Mayor. The Mayor is elected the manager is not its easier to control an employee then as Elected Official . hat is another reason the South looks one way and the North another. There is no way a house like the one Councilman Caraway is tearing down and the building T. Boone Pickens and Walt Humann tore down in East Dallas would have been seen in North Dallas. THINK about IT. When have you ever seen in any part of North Dallas trash, abundant houses and etc. that you see in Southern Dallas ? Why has a Professional Manager allowed this? Dallas Housing is spending millions building new housing in Frazier and former Councilwoman Ragsdale ICDC is working to bring the area back but there is a Triangle of old buildings that are closed and trash is everywhere but the City/ Manager allows them to stand. Black Dallas Business is not Depressed from my view.
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written by Dallas Site , December 17, 2007 Betty this has no meirt what you wrote sit down shut up and be quite!!
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written by jb , December 18, 2007 Accoring to Steve Malenga; 'Created in response to the riots of the mid-1960s, urban-aid programs sprang from a belief of those radicalized years that the economic decline of inner cities resulted from external forces unconnected to the cities’ own high-tax, antibusiness policies or the growing culture of inner-city dependency, nurtured by a vast expansion of welfare..." Among other things, Malenga says..."War on Poverty planners had argued that poverty persisted in distressed areas partly because banks and other businesses redlined them, starving them of the investment they needed to revive by refusing to do business there [Hmmmmm...where have we heard this before?]. To counteract that lack of capital, the block-grant program poured hundreds of millions of dollars into businesses in poor communities, often financing companies that had difficulty repaying their debts, backing projects that went bust, and rarely creating jobs in the distressed areas at which they were targeted. Nationwide, nearly 25 percent of block-grant-backed loans wind up in default, according to a recent analysis of dozens of community-lending portfolios. Even worse, a second HUD program—known as Section 108—which allows block-grant communities to raise money for loans by floating HUD-backed notes, has a staggering 59 percent default rate." At this point, taxpayers have done far more than their fair share.
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written by Betty Culbreath , December 19, 2007 Dallas Site , gave my prior statement LIFE! It's fine to say it had "no merit" but then to want to deprive me of my first amendment rights and direct me to sit down violating my civil rights is all the reason we are in this condition no respect for the rights of other and refusing to hear another voice. Write comment
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